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		<title>Who do You Follow: Karl Marx or Jesus Christ?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[	Ben Franklin taught us that “the early bird gets the worm” to motivate us to rise early in the day to be productive.  Some people have misunderstood Franklin’s maxim as threatening scarcity.  They misinterpret “the worm” to mean there is only one worm, and that only the first bird will eat.  But let me ask you: when have you found only one worm in the ground?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	Ben Franklin taught us that “the early bird gets the worm” to motivate us to rise early in the day to be productive.  Some people have misunderstood Franklin’s maxim as threatening scarcity.  They misinterpret “the worm” to mean there is only one worm, and that only the first bird will eat.  But let me ask you: when have you found only one worm in the ground?<br />
	Our nation is suffering economically.  We are hurting financially, and this hurt feeds the belief that there is not enough to go around.  We are buying into a scarcity mindset with beliefs such as when one person prospers it is at the expense of another. Or, that the less fortunate are poor because the wealthy took their money.  Or, that the thin man is thin because the fat man ate his lunch.  In short, our nation is being taught the mindset of scarcity by believing in “one worm consciousness.”<br />
        Scarcity promotes competition.  Karl Marx founded Marxism in the late 1800s based on his belief in scarcity and competition. He did not see people as individuals but as collectives or classes. He believed that one class would inevitably rule the other.  Marx believed that the bourgeoisie, or owners, were wealthy at the expense of the proletariat, or workers.  He mistakenly believed that all wealth was produced from the surplus created by labor only. This would be like saying that all the profits generated by Apple came from the surplus created by their workers who made Apple&#8217;s products and none from the creative ideas of the owners like Steve Jobs and his partners who invented the Mac computer, the iPod, or the iPad.<br />
        Marx did not foresee a nation where unions could represent labor in negotiating salaries and wages.  He did not foresee companies in which the employees could own shares in their own company including complete ownership of the company.<br />
        Marx’s idea, which he called dialectic materialism, promoted conflict as the means to change the social order.  Ideas were not enough for Marx who called for physical action to cause revolutions in which the class order would be reversed.  He championed “the dictatorship of the proletariat” over the bourgeoisie.  In this dictatorship the government would impose material equality on its citizens by redistribution.  His guiding credo advocated “from each according to his abilities to each according to his need.”<br />
        Marx dismissed religion as “the opiate (opium) of the people.”  He blamed religion for serving to preserve political and economic inequality.  He and Lenin sought to abolish religion.<br />
        In contrast to Marxism, God’s world is not one of scarcity and limitation.  In fact, it is just the opposite.  His world is one of abundance.  Christ taught us of God’s intentions in Matthew’s Parable of the Talents (Matt: 25:14-30). In this parable a master who was leaving on a long journey gave his three servants money, called talents, in accord with their abilities.   A talent was a measure of weight, equivalent to eighty pounds or approximately twenty years of ordinary labor. The first servant was given five talents, the second servant two talents, and the third servant one talent.<br />
       After a long time the master returned and the servants came to settle accounts with him.  The first servant with five talents had earned five more.  The second servant with two talents had earned two more.  The master praised both servants for being trustworthy with a few things and put them in charge of many things. He invited them to share his joy.<br />
       The third servant told his master that he knew his master was a harsh man who reaped where he did not sow, and gathered where he did not scatter seed.  Being afraid, he hid in the ground his one talent which he now returned to his master.  The master responded by calling him a lazy and wicked servant and said he ought to have invested his one talent with the bankers so at least he would have earned interest with it.  The master had his one talent taken from the third servant and given to the servant with ten talents.  He ordered the third servant thrown into outer darkness where “there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”<br />
       When I first read this parable I was puzzled by Christ’s lesson, probably because I have at times held fast to money when I was afraid, like the third servant.  Then it dawned on me what Christ was teaching us.  By not trusting his master the third servant promoted scarcity even though his master had given him wealth. By hoarding his money he was taking it out of circulation like people did during the Great Depression.<br />
       Money is meant to be circulated and that is the only way it creates more wealth and more abundance.  The third servant was disobeying God’s laws. He had buried his money in the ground rather than use it to create more wealth. He was destroying abundance rather than contributing to it. Rather than being responsible for not working and for not being productive while his master was away he blamed his master.  As a consequence he lost what he had been given and was banished.<br />
       Contrast what Karl Marx would have done with the master and his servants.  To enforce his doctrine “from each according to his abilities to each according to his need” he would have had his government tax the people he called “the rich class,” which would have included the master, the first servant and probably the second servant.  Defining people by class and who belongs in which class is the privilege of his powerful government.  He would have championed the cause of those he called “the poor class,” like the third servant who had not contributed to prosperity and consequently had the greatest need.  Taxes from “the rich” Marx would redistribute to “the poor.” Marx knew that if you followed Christ you would not follow him. Christ warned us: “A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.” (James 1:8) To attempt to follow Christ and Marx is to be double-minded.<br />
      I leave it to you to conclude what will be the consequences from Marxism on our nation knowing this simple truth: we get more of what we reward and less of what we penalize.  It comes as no surprise, consequently, that those nations whose governments have subscribed to Marxism show diminished prosperity and an increase in dependency on an ever increasing government.  Dictators rule Russia, China, Cuba, and Venezuela while bankruptcy confronts Greece, Italy, Spain, and Portugal.<br />
      So what can we do to contribute to the abundance and prosperity God would have for us in the form of longer lives, greater health, prosperity, wealth, and abundance?<br />
      Here is what you can do:<br />
      First: you must want for everyone what you want for yourself and act accordingly. If you want prosperity you must act so as to promote prosperity for everyone.   When you truly lift up everyone as well as yourself you will love God with all your mind, heart, and soul and you will love your neighbor as yourself.<br />
      Second: give more in the value of the service you provide than what you receive in cash value.  When you act in this way you increase the prosperity of America and of the world. As an ambassador of God you will do unto others as you would have them do unto you.<br />
      Third: you must spread the word.  We are not a &#8220;one worm&#8221; nation of scarcity. We are a nation under God of prosperity and abundance for all. </p>
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		<title>Abundance or Scarcity? How to have prosperity for yourself and others.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want prosperity believe in your heart in the goal you want.  Want for everyone what you want for yourself&#8211; wealth, a love relationship, better health or whatever you desire instead of buying into scarcity.    Return more in service value than you are paid in cash value.  When you do these things you will realize your goal and increase the prosperity of others.


  


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		<title>Is Money the root of all evil?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 01:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>drwelpton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ernestine Hendricks, host on WTWG, 1050 AM, and I discuss the beliefs that keep us from creating wealth like our feeling that pursuing money is bad and means we are greedy or dishonest.  Money is a form of energy and we earn it through expending physical or mental energy in creating products or doing work that others want.  Only when we have saved money can we be financially helpful to others.  If we have saved nothing we become dependent on others instead of being helpful to them.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ernestine Hendricks, host on WTWG, 1050 AM, and I discuss the beliefs that keep us from creating wealth like our feeling that pursuing money is bad and means we are greedy or dishonest.  Money is a form of energy and we earn it through expending physical or mental energy in creating products or doing work that others want.  Only when we have saved money can we be financially helpful to others.  If we have saved nothing we become dependent on others instead of being helpful to them.<br />
We have mistaken beliefs like money is the root of all evil that interfere with our comfort pursuing wealth.  It is not money itself but  &#8220;the love of money&#8221; that can create problems by making money into God in the expression of greed or avarice.  Anything that comes between us and God creates evil, but learning how to earn money and have wealth can be used for our own growth and to help others.  Addictions to alcohol/drugs, sex, food, gambling, shopping, etc. are expressions of greed and place the object of our addiction ahead of our relationship to God.<br />
Besides our own mistaken mindsets the unintended consequences of political legislation interfere with citizens finding jobs to earn money.  While minimum wage legislation appears to support workers with the wages they are earning, it keeps employers who cannot afford those wages from hiring employees.  Usually it is the beginning worker, often black youths, who do not get hired for jobs as a consequence of the minimum wage.  Minimum wage legislation had its origins in the Davis Bacon Act of 1931 which was used to keep black laborers in the construction unions from getting jobs on government projects.  The act prohibited black workers from accepting lower wages than their white counterparts and consequently kept them from being employed.  </p>
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		<title>Do Love and Money Go Together in a Marriage?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>drwelpton</dc:creator>
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		<title>Financial teamwork: avoid &#8220;The Gift that Wasn&#8217;t&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>drwelpton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim had worked hard as a pilot to accumulate enough money to retire.  He and Jackie had married seven years ago.  It was a second marriage for both of them. Jackie is younger by a dozen years.
Jim wanted to give Jackie a big gift: a studio in which to teach her physical fitness program, a series of video recordings of her teaching students what to do, and a marketing program that would get her videos on several TV stations to attract clients.  Jim spent at least fifty ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim had worked hard as a pilot to accumulate enough money to retire.  He and Jackie had married seven years ago.  It was a second marriage for both of them. Jackie is younger by a dozen years.<br />
Jim wanted to give Jackie a big gift: a studio in which to teach her physical fitness program, a series of video recordings of her teaching students what to do, and a marketing program that would get her videos on several TV stations to attract clients.  Jim spent at least fifty thousand dollars of their retirement money on the project.<br />
Jackie made the recordings and they were excellent.  However, the man who designed and promised to do their marketing plan failed to carry it out. Jim consulted a lawyer.  They filed a lawsuit.  Nothing much happened. They learned their consultant had left other clients high and dry.  Jim found out it would cost several thousand more dollars of legal expenses to pursue the case in court.  Furthermore, it was not clear the marketer had any money for them to recover.<br />
As we reviewed what had happened in this fitness center undertaking, Jackie made clear that Jim had rushed ahead faster than she wanted.  She wanted to go slower and take the process of building her business a step at a time.  While Jim said he wanted to set up this business as a gift to her, Jackie felt he had another motive: she was to earn money to compensate for what they would be losing when Jim retired.  Jim admitted there was truth to what Jackie said.  He acknowledged he did move faster than Jackie wanted, and he did want her to earn money to help support them.<br />
The long and the short of it is this: Jim and Jackie did not accomplish their dream of setting Jackie up with a successful physical fitness business because they did not work together.  They did not discuss and resolve their differing expectations. They did not take the time and work as a team to vet the marketer they hired.  They did not assist each other to set up a pay plan for their marketing campaign rather than pay the marketer in advance.  Had they been supporting each other, it would have been easier for them to question and negotiate with the marketer.  They could have negotiated making their payments conditional on what he accomplished.<br />
George and Athena had a double income from his dental practice and her work as a physician.  They were foresighted in consulting a highly respected financial planner to help them plan how to save and invest for their retirement.  However, instead of following the plan each of them went their own way.  When we discussing their finances and reviewed their savings for retirement they got a surprise.  Both were shocked at how little they had saved.  They were nowhere near the goals they had set.<br />
The issues they needed to resolve came out.  George felt controlled over money by Athena and her spending.  She felt unsupported financially by George and taken advantage of by how much she contributed to pay their family expenses.  We talked out these issues and confronted the reality that they needed to start saving rapidly to make up for lost time.  They agreed to follow their financial retirement plan without exceptions.  Athena and George were fortunate that they still had enough time before retirement to accumulate the funds they needed to retire</p>
<p>  The greatest financial plan in the world from the best financial planner does not lead to success when spouses fail to work as a team.  Being an outstanding singles tennis player does not automatically mean you will be good at doubles unless you devote yourself to working with your partner.<br />
From my own experience I remember conflicts my wife and I confronted when were adding a sunroom and new kitchen to our home.  Our expectations about what we were doing and how much we were willing to spend were different.  When we were at cross purposes the contractor made use of our conflicts to advance his goal, which understandably was to make more money by expanding our project.<br />
Once we realized how essential it was for us to agree on what we were doing, we came to a very useful agreement: we would not go forward with our remodeling project until the two of us were in total agreement on each next step we were prepared to take.<br />
  The rule worked as we followed it!  At times the contractor did not like having to slow down until we were aligned, but the outcome was a highly successful result.  We loved our new sunroom and our new kitchen. We felt pleased with the cost of it and with what we had accomplished together.  Our marriage was stronger too.</p>
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		<title>How couples talk successfully about finances and money</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>drwelpton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Host Rick Vazquez, author of &#8220;The Pizza Delivery Millionaire&#8221; and host of the Web Talk Radio show titled &#8220;Winning in the Game of Life&#8221; discusses with me how couples can talk successfully about their finances.   The steps I explain include giving each other a reward for the discussion, learning to appreciate what your partner contributes to your financial process, setting aside the time, talking without criticism or blaming, and using a positive tone while making eye contract.  To avoid judgments couples use &#8220;I&#8221; not &#8220;you&#8221; statements and limit themselves to ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Host Rick Vazquez, author of &#8220;The Pizza Delivery Millionaire&#8221; and host of the Web Talk Radio show titled &#8220;Winning in the Game of Life&#8221; discusses with me how couples can talk successfully about their finances.   The steps I explain include giving each other a reward for the discussion, learning to appreciate what your partner contributes to your financial process, setting aside the time, talking without criticism or blaming, and using a positive tone while making eye contract.  To avoid judgments couples use &#8220;I&#8221; not &#8220;you&#8221; statements and limit themselves to just three sentences  during their turn to speak.  Each commits to something they will start doing immediately to help financially.  They can trade off whose purchase they put first each week or each month or however often they agree they can afford the purchase.  Giving to your relationship instead of keeping score on purchases can advance your relationship to a new level.</p>
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		<title>Marc Pearlman interviews Dr. Doug on YourMoneyMattersradio.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Financial Infidelity: What is it and how to stop it. Cheating with money is a major threat to marriages and a leading cause of divorce. Bob&#8217;s wife even stole his identity to register their car in her name and use it to get a loan.  She pawned her wedding ring and engagement ring.  She kited checks from their bank accounts and told the bank Bob did it, getting him kicked out of the bank.
She even forged checks on their 19 year old son&#8217;s account.  Financial infidelity can ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Financial Infidelity: What is it and how to stop it. Cheating with money is a major threat to marriages and a leading cause of divorce. Bob&#8217;s wife even stole his identity to register their car in her name and use it to get a loan.  She pawned her wedding ring and engagement ring.  She kited checks from their bank accounts and told the bank Bob did it, getting him kicked out of the bank.<br />
She even forged checks on their 19 year old son&#8217;s account.  Financial infidelity can destroy marriages and families.  Learn how to avoid it and what to do to stop it and correct it.  Listen to this very informative program:<br />
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		<title>Tom Barnard interviews Dr. Doug, Savers &amp; Spenders join as a team to avoid Financial Infidelity</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>drwelpton</dc:creator>
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		<title>To Stay or to Leave? How to Decide</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the most painful and difficult questions you may confront is whether to stay in your marriage or leave it and end it.
Bob sent me an email about his facing this issue with his wife.  He wrote:
I am a child of divorced parents and know how difficult it is especially during family events and holidays.  I hate seeing my kids having to deal with those same emotions.  However, nearly two years ago I left the home (14 months) after she (his wife) used my 18 y/o&#8217;s bank account without his ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most painful and difficult questions you may confront is whether to stay in your marriage or leave it and end it.</p>
<p>Bob sent me an email about his facing this issue with his wife.  He wrote:</p>
<p><em>I am a child of divorced parents and know how difficult it is especially during family events and holidays.  I hate seeing my kids having to deal with those same emotions.  However, nearly two years ago I left the home (14 months) after she (his wife) used my 18 y/o&#8217;s bank account without his knowledge.  She told him she closed it for him (after he lost his wallet).  She proceeded to write out nearly 30 bad checks totaling over $1,400 in bank fees…. I also found out that she took my sons car title (which was in both our names), forged my name as a seller and sold it to herself to get a new title in her own name only as collateral for a $4,500 loan.  I knew she did this type stuff over the last twenty years, but never would have thought she would target my kids.  Stupid me, I should have known because I have so many safeguards I pay for to monitor my credit, P.O. Box, Phones, off-site personal filing cabinets, safes, etc.  I filed for divorce, went through the whole process until nearly the end when I found out I would be left with less than 1/3 of my income.  Not enough to even rent in this area.  Plus I cannot leave my job which I have been at for 25 years.  So I stopped the divorce and went back (for all the wrong reasons money, kids, house, dog and maybe her somewhere).  The problem is my trust in her is so bad.  Within one year of being back, she has lied about her whereabouts on two occasions, she applied for two credit cards and a loan (which she denies).</em></p>
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<p>Bob wrote in an earlier email describing other of his wife’s financial infidelities (cheating with money) as follows:</p>
<p>She pawned her engagement ring, wedding ring, and the guard ring.  She told Bob they fell down the sink, or one of the kids took it when a ring disappeared.</p>
<p>She skimmed money from checks dedicated for food shopping.</p>
<p>She kited checks between their bank accounts.</p>
<p>She stole Bob’s identity and forged his name on loan and credit card applications.</p>
<p>She forged his name as the seller on the car title to obtain a new title in her name alone for loan collateral.</p>
<p>She hid and discarded bank statements and billing statements.</p>
<p>She unplugged the phone so Bob wouldn’t receive calls from collection agents when he was at home.</p>
<p>She embarrassed him with the bank president, who was a good friend of his, by reporting that he had kited checks that got him kicked out of the bank.</p>
<p>After Bob returned for a year and her behavior didn’t change he moved out and is now living again at his mother’s. He is asking himself whether to stay or to leave and start a new life being close to 50 years old.  He is deeply conflicted whether to divorce or not.</p>
<p>He has been married twenty years and questions whether to start a new life.</p>
<p>This is a big decision.  For twenty painful years Bob has managed to stay married.</p>
<p>Clearly there are factors that keep him in his marriage.  One is that his parents divorced and he knows that pain from his own childhood and does not want to do that to his kids.</p>
<p>Bob has asked my advice. It is tempting to tell Bob he should leave given how his wife has treated him and one of their children.  No one, however, can make this decision for Bob.  It is a very important decision and he needs to make it for himself.  There is a risk of treating Bob as though he cannot take care of himself and reinforcing that mindset by telling him what to do.</p>
<p>I wrote Bob that a major risk for him is to see himself as a victim.  He could easily blame his wife, based on her behavior, instead of taking complete responsibility for having stayed in his marriage for twenty years.  Getting into the blame game will not help Bob.  He may get sympathy from others for being a victim, but he will lose self-esteem for believing he is powerless and helpless.  He has choices.  One choice is to see himself as having power rather than being a victim.  He has the power to decide to stay or to leave.  He has the power to decide what he wants to do regarding his wife, his four children, his dog, his house, and his money.</p>
<p>No one else can make this decision for Bob, nor should they try to.  Having someone else tell him what to do will keep Bob feeling powerless and reinforce his feeling like a victim.</p>
<p>Bob must make the decision for himself. Whatever he decides, he will feel the power of having made a choice.  Bob will discover that the power of choice can change him from being his own worst enemy into his own best friend!  He will feel better about himself for having taken the responsibility for his decision.</p>
<p>What has helped many people in a predicament like Bob’s is to try out each of his choices one day at a time.  One day he imagines himself divorced and pictures what that would be like with his wife, his children, his mother, his job, and all the aspects of his life.  The next day he imagines himself remaining in the marriage and pictures what that would be like.  He continues to alternate between his choices with each new day until he becomes clear.</p>
<p>Bob needs to understand it is ok to take his time to make this very important decision with all the consequences either choice will have for him.  There is no good reason for him to act before he is clear.   When Bob is clear the choice he makes will be the right one for him at this time.  With either choice he will face losses and pain.  In facing his losses and absorbing his pain he will grow.</p>
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		<title>Financial Teamwork: The Thinker (Saver) and the Feeler (Spender) Cooperate</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>drwelpton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gerry and Joan are like bookends.  He is as loud and talkative as she is quiet and restrained.  When it comes to their finances, as you might expect, he is the big spender and she is the saver.  Gerry works hard and brings home a substantial paycheck.  However, he also loves to spend and he often overspends compared to what he earns.  Joan does her best to constrain him.  She attempts to reason with him about not going into debt just to buy a flashier car.  In general, Gerry sees ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerry and Joan are like bookends.  He is as loud and talkative as she is quiet and restrained.  When it comes to their finances, as you might expect, he is the big spender and she is the saver.  Gerry works hard and brings home a substantial paycheck.  However, he also loves to spend and he often overspends compared to what he earns.  Joan does her best to constrain him.  She attempts to reason with him about not going into debt just to buy a flashier car.  In general, Gerry sees the good sense in what Joan is saying, although he hates saying no to anything he wants.  Joan keeps their books and takes care of their finances, but at times feels close to giving up when Gerry gets out of control.</p>
<p>Joan and Gerry were working on limiting their spending and staying within their budget using my twelve step Connecting Conversation.  They had downloaded the ebook for free from my website: <a href="http://www.talk2myheart.com/">www.talk2myheart.com</a>.  As recommended, they had given each other rewards and appreciated their differences as a spender and a saver.  They were watching the tones with which they spoke, and sending “I” statements instead of “you” statements.</p>
<p>Joan wanted help for them about using thinking and feeling energy.  She knows she relates through thinking energy while Gerry uses feeling energy. She complained that at times she feels steamrollered by Gerry, like his energy gets the best of him.  He cannot contain himself enough to listen. She likened Gerry to a horse headed for the barn at the end of a long day.</p>
<p>Gerry acknowledged that he is an extrovert and knows he can get on a roll where he talks too much and doesn’t listen enough.  I talked to him about shifting from feeling energy with looser boundaries to thinking energy, like he would use when talking professionally with a colleague or speaking in front of a group.  Gerry laughed and responded that even in those situations he has been known to get carried away and not shut up when he knows he should.  He is clear that at times he offends Joan by talking over her and not listening to what she is trying to tell him.</p>
<p>I asked Gerry when he last got a ticket driving his car.  I surmised there was a very high probably he either got stopped for speeding or running a stop sign.  He blushed momentarily and asked, “How did you know?” He smiled but looked chagrined.  He continued, “I just got stopped this last week for speeding.  Now I have to go to drivers’ education class or pay a lot more for my car insurance.”</p>
<p>I asked him, “What was your energy like when you were talking with the police officer?”</p>
<p>“Oh,” he said, “I was on good behavior.  I kept my mouth shut and just listened.  I even said, yes, sir.”</p>
<p>I said, “From now on when Joan is talking with you about your finances I want you to see her as the police officer giving you a ticket.  Behave with her the same way you did with the policeman.”</p>
<p>Gerry laughed.  “I got it!” he said.  “I can do that!  Perhaps we should get a police hat for Joan to wear?” he quipped.</p>
<p>I replied, “If you start to talk too much and talk over her, you must buy her a police hat.  Keep it where you can hand it to her any time she says she needs it when you two are talking.”</p>
<p>To date this solution has worked.  When I last heard Gerry had not yet had to buy Joan the hat.</p>
<p>Gerry now has a way to get himself out of feeling energy and into thinking energy with better boundaries to contain himself.  He is listening to Joan, who feels encouraged about how they are discussing and managing their finances.</p>
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